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Pushkin-2795-HR (by John Galvin)
Rabbit Shaming [x]
Mitchell Feinberg for Wall Street Journal
ignore anyone who tells you otherwise.
No white girls?
Why? You do t think white girls should be told they’re beautiful?
The amount of white whine in the notes…it’s ridiculous.
Every time we ask for the inclusion of young girls and women of color in pieces similar to this, where everyone is white, we’re told
"If you want representation then make it yourself and shut up about this!"“Let the artist make whatever they want and include whoever they want! Freedom of expression!”
"If you need to see someone who looks like you in order to feel included then you are the real racist."
Yet all I see in the notes are:
"If you want equality you have to include EVERYONE including white girls and guys!"
“it’s pathetic that the only way you can feel good about yourself is by excluding others.”
No doubt they feel some type of way with their own bodies but what is dedicating a piece such as this to women who fall no where near the Eurocentric standards of beauty taking away from white women when they have so much representations and campaigns centered around them.~Eon
No. I understand that white people get really whiny really fast but in this case I agree. It isn’t about it just so happening to not have white people and that’s it. All other major ethnicities are well represented in what looks like a deliberate attempt to include all of them besides a white girl, but if they didn’t include a black or Latina girl then tumblr would have shut this shit down faster than you could blink and I understand that all other races have faced a ton of problems with representation but the way to solve that isn’t by excluding white people and telling them to stop whining when they want to be told that they can feel beautiful. I’m sorry and I understand that white privilege is a huge problem but being exclusive and rude back at white people won’t help with equal representation as much as representing everyone equally would.
(Sorry for shit grammar/ spelling I’m dyslexic and on a phone)
There’s a lot wrong with what you’re saying in general, but I have a feeling other people are covering it better than I can.
So instead, I have a question for you about your wording.
When you say that Tumblr would have shut it down, do you mean the site’s administration would have yanked the post, or do you mean… someone would have said something, and then the post keeps going?
Because my experience is that what would happen is someone would say something. Much like you have here.
And my experience is that what happens next is that for everyone who speaks up about a lack of representation for women of color, there are more people who speak up to defend that lack as “it just happened”, or “it’s the artist’s vision”, or “this is universal”, or “let’s not make it about race”.
And my experience—second hand, I should stress—is that this extends to the people who spoke up getting a parade of hate in their inbox and trolls following their blog for days or even weeks afterwards, punishing them for having said something.
And meanwhile, the original post continues to circulate on, unheeded.
Is that what you mean, when you say “Tumblr would shut it down?”
Because that doesn’t sound like a shut down to me.
There’s a phenomenon that happens in all walks of life, where people who are used to being the insular, “default” and unmarked majority react to the sudden (seeming) presence and voice of anyone outside their majority as being more prominent than it is.
If you’re on Tumblr a lot, you might have seen a post talking about how people tend to judge a woman’s speech against silence rather than against the men in the room, in order to determine if she’s “dominating the conversation”.
That’s an example of this.
In most walks of life, people who are marginalized have to be a lot more careful about speaking up than on Tumblr, because the punishments are more tangible than blog harassment and backlash. Even on other internet sites, there’s more compartmentalization and self-segregation among communities. Conversations are easier to control or shut down on almost every social site besides Tumblr, community boundaries are easier to enforce.
So what’s actually happening when you say that Tumblr “shuts down” things that are racist and exclusionary towards women of color is that conversation happens about them at all, and that conversation isn’t shut down the way it normally would be.
Because this is unusual to your experience, your brain parses what’s happening as the people speaking showing dominance, holding power that they don’t have.
And because your experience is itself not unusual, you wouldn’t be alone in this regard.
Which is why so many people would be verbally dogpiling on the people who spoke up. Because paradoxically, all of those people would feel like they were standing up for the underdog, speaking truth to power, being the one lone voice in the wilderness standing against a sea of opposition.
And this happens every day on Tumblr.
And the people who do it, who participate in or succumb to this phenomenon, they go other places and say, “That website. It’s run by [insert marginalized group here]. Social justice run wild. I tell you. That website. Just try being [insert privileged group here] on there. They tolerate everyone, except [same group].”
Think I’m stretching the point?
Go back to my original question.
When you say a post gets “shut down by Tumblr”, what’s actually happening? And what happens to the people who “shut it down”?
Just think about it.
We honestly cannot have shit.
I am looking at this picture on my phone and thought ‘oh, that’s nice’ without even noticing the lack of white girls. And THEN I scrolled down and wow.
I mean, you’re kidding right? It’s a drawing with a positive message and people are getting pissed?
Do we need a #NotAllWhitey tag now? Maybe a white girl fedora? Because the people complaining about the lack of white girls on here sound just like the whiny dudes who bitch about feminism.
You want to know why I am completely unbothered by the fact that there’s no white girls in this picture? Because I just scrolled past about a dozen images of empowered white women on my dash before this one.
And I don’t hear and specific woman of color ever say that any picture, movie, comic, whatever piece of media say that it specifically looked to exclude black women or latina women, ect. They say a lack of representation of people of color. They’re not complaining about things specifically excluding them. They’re complaining that they’re never thought of in the first place.
So if someone makes a picture of groups of women who don’t individually get much face time and say they’re all beautiful, I really don’t see the problem.
Yeah, when this first hit my dash there wasn’t all this commentary, and I just thought it was a great post. Now I’m amazed - I didn’t notice a ‘lack of white girl’ - I noticed a really varied array of girls. I’m white and we’re already everywhere, like, I don’t desperately need to be represented in every single thing anyone does ever. Calm down. Save your rage for all the times white women are reduced to ‘the token white’ in media (read: literally never).
I like it when cats settle down and it looks like they don’t have any limbs
…and if you ever wondered what they look like from underneath when doing that:
This is important
I SEE A GOUF